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You Made It Weird #83: Live from SF Outside Lands!

Holy shit. The weirdest, most uncomfortable episode ever. By far. I mean, buckle up. IT. GETS. AWKWARD. Yeeeeek! With the hilarious Eric Andre (The Eric Andre Show!), Jackie Kashian (Dork Forest podcast!), Jon Glaser (Delocated!) and Brett Gelman (NBCs Go On, Eagleheart!). Soak in the weirdness, then shower afterwards. NOT FOR THE FAINT OF AWKWARDNESS!

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117 comments

  • Jackie Kashian contributing absolutely nothing amusing or interesting to this podcast, and actually did a worse job of attempting to entertain the listener than she did when she was on Doug Loves Movies last week (9/5). Her presence is a revelation in blech.

    • Jamidd: part of Gelman’s act is to act like he hates people (as a whole or individually). He was just using the opportunity to call back to/make fun of the way Jon Glaser reacted to Pete. Was trying to put the show back in the funny zone.

      I thought it was interesting that he went for a serious, non-live YMIW type of interview, where he actually went introspective and talked about some of his childhood. Wasn’t nearly as funny as Andre/Jackie’s bits, but pretty cool

  • Damn…. that got weird… yikes.

    Pete went too far but I clearly he didn’t do it on purpose, I don’t think he expected that reaction. I think that he’s an over-sharer and that brings the funny most times but will occasionally go too far. This was one of those times.

    I don’t blame Jon for being pissed, and glad he was direct about it.

    To be fair, this was a pretty weird episode even before the E-Trade debacle. But I’ll take a comedian pushing things a bit to far and failing every so often versus guys who play it safe and never stretch an idea because they are to squeamish to risk offending anyone.

  • I just listened to this last night but my memory sucks. Was the second awkward moment when someone interrupted Gelman to talk about Morgan Freeman? Or was there another awkward part I forgot?

  • I don’t fault either person. I will say that Glaser has been doing well for a very long time, and most likely already has wayy more money than Pete does. Definitely way more than Eric Andre, who thought he might be joking. It’s a job, Pete got it, he didn’t, get over it, you’re already rich. I love his work, but this didn’t make his stock go up in my book. Just one man’s opinion.

  • Anyone else kind of put off by Gelman’s defensive stance on how intelligent he is? I’m sure he’s a smart dude, but he’s a comic, not curing cancer or saving the world.

    Strangely I was more ok with the confrontation with Glaser… because Pete was being kind of an a-hole.

  • Welp, I’m the worst. First my iPhone autocorrects my own name, then I post two edits? Kept saying there was an error in my post, but I guess not. I’ll go die alone now.

  • Taking a phone call mid-podcast during Manzoukas’ episode, talking over everyone else on yesterday’s Nerdist, and now airing private professional information before a live studio audience? New Pete is making Marc Maron look like Old Pete. I love the podcast (and the host), but when did this become You Disrespected the Guest?

  • Taking a phone call mid-podcast during Manzoukas’ episode, talking over everyone else on yesterday’s Nerdist, and now airing private professional information before a live studio audience? New Pete is making Maron look like Old Pete. I love the podcast (and the host), but when did he become this self-centered?

  • Taking a phone call mid-podcast during Manzoukas’ episode, talking over everyone else on yesterday’s Nerdist, and now airing private professional information before a live studio audience? New Pete is making Maron look like Old Pete. I love the podcast (and the host), but when did he become this self-centered?

  • I agree with Alex:
    “Wow, can’t believe everyone is so lockstep against Jon. To me Jon was 100% right that it was a shitty thing to bring up. I actually thought it was refreshing, in such a passive aggressive society, to hear someone actually call someone out when they deserve to be. I’m sure Pete makes fucking bank on those commercials, they are on all the goddamn time and have been for years. To bring it up not only on a podcast but a live podcast in front of an audience, out of the blue, was completely out of line. To shit on Jon for making things awkward and “shutting down the comedy” when it was Pete’s fault for bringing up a sensitive and wholly unfunny topic is just disingenuous.

    Seriously, what was Jon supposed to say in response to it being brought up? There was no comedic route to go navigate that cliff. Listen to it again, it was all Pete’s fault, not Jon’s.”

    It seemed like Jon walked onto the stage and Pete and Andre were in their own world ‘riffing’ without any regard to their new guest. So to make fun of that, Jon went into the audience to show how little room there was for him to speak onstage. I think that’s what got him on the defensive in the first place.
    I’m sure Pete learned a lot from this experience.

  • The funny thing about Brett Gelman is that one sometimes gets the distinct impression that although he exaggerates it for comedic effect, there is a genuine undercurrent of mental illness that underlies everything else about who he is as a person.

  • The reason most of these comments are team Pete is because it is obvious Pete’s comment was innocuous and that he meant no offense. He was just trying to connect and have a interesting conversation with a man who decided to go on a someone else’s comedic casual chat show, in front of a live audience, and be aloof. Jon’s ego decided that it was more important to keep it real then to have a fun moment with performers. For that I give Jon one “make Jim Gaffigan mad by taking his seat” out of five. P.S. being polite and brown nosing not the same thing

  • Haven’t heard it yet, but from what I can tell from the comments, I wonder if this was referenced on another YMIW…Pete mentioned to someone (I forget whom) that he HAS offended people, and mentioned a live show where he felt really bad for a long time afterward. This must be awkward for him, to put it out there for people to hear…but it’s good that nobody “Gallagher’ed” on him, right?

  • Wow, can’t believe everyone is so lockstep against Jon. To me Jon was 100% right that it was a shitty thing to bring up. I actually thought it was refreshing, in such a passive aggressive society, to hear someone actually call someone out when they deserve to be. I’m sure Pete makes fucking bank on those commercials, they are on all the goddamn time and have been for years. To bring it up not only on a podcast but a live podcast in front of an audience, out of the blue, was completely out of line. To shit on Jon for making things awkward and “shutting down the comedy” when it was Pete’s fault for bringing up a sensitive and wholly unfunny topic is just disingenuous.

    Seriously, what was Jon supposed to say in response to it being brought up? There was no comedic route to go navigate that cliff. Listen to it again, it was all Pete’s fault, not Jon’s.

  • What is most weird is how the first uncomfortable situation paved the way for the next. When that emotion is brought to the table, it seems really difficult to redirect the mood of the collective. Most likely it is because those interactions are hard to come by, but the episode in general left a bad taste in my Woody Allen.

  • Wow a lot of hate for Glasser.. Uncomfortable, but well within his right to react how he felt fit. Not agreeing with the outburst at all but as fellow weirdo’s I don’t feel like we should slaughter the poor guy.
    Anyway, full support for Pete! Please keep doing exactly what you’re doing and don’t let a little hiccup make you change your approach at all! You dealt with the situation like an expert and my respect for you has only increased 10 fold!
    YAY for Pete Holmes!!!

  • This episode was the weirdest, but amazing in its awkwardness. I saw all these comics but Jackie at Bridgetown comedy festival and they were all amazing in their own way. It was weird to hear Gelman being upset not for pure comedic effect. I’m glad by the end of the episode he and Andre were able to see it was a bit of an overreaction to a misunderstanding. Clearly Pete was not prepared for what happened but he rode it out and let it be weird.

  • Wow.
    Woah.
    Wow.

    Ive listened to a shitton of comedy podcasts and never come across anything like this one. John Glaser was the single worst guest ive ever come across..so much so that im in awe and disbelief of his ignorance of his jerk-ness throughout the entire segment. I will always cut alot of slack for live shows and potential guest nervousness however he was a complete asshole. Pete: you did NOTHING wrong and gave him alot of out’s to redeem himself and reconnect on the E-trade stuff. He was just a jerk. The best..and worst..part of the segment was the ending where he shushed everyone so he could talk and proceeded to reassure the crowd that he was fine and it was all ok…he was COMPLETELY oblivious to what an asshole he was as a guest and had the balls to reassure folks that he was fine as if he was in the right all along?????? Wow.

    Pete: thanks for the awesome podcast…this one was the weirdest for sure and you’re a trooper for how you handled it….keep the great podcast coming and good luck with your tv development and comedy central hour…cant wait.

    Peace .n. E-Trade chose very VERY wisely

    3ToF.

  • IMO Glaser was not playing “yes, and..” from the moment he walked out and laid down on the stage and went into the audience so he “wouldn’t have to say anything the whole time..” which would have been “fine by him”. He was being curt and unenthused in his responses before Pete’s gaffe. In fact his seeming unwillingness to engage is probably what prompted Pete to reeeeach for some kind of connection/ commonality they had and… yes it was probably not the right guy for that topic but many comedians would have turned it into a “bit”. As an actress I have lost out parts to friends and it’s a something we joke about…

  • Also (you can probably tell from my previous comment), I don’t think Glaser overreacted. His reaction was jarring, but only because it’s something people tend not to do (communicate their offense, instead of avoidance/nervous laughter/etc). It’s uncommon but that doesn’t make it rude or over-reactionary. IMO, a willingness to show your hand and vulnerably engage the other person like that is laudable.

  • Well that certainly was a weird one! I think it is important to recognize that Glaser’s response may have been as harsh as it was because it was a live podcast. Money is an incredibly sensitive subject and it may have been one thing to discuss it in a room at Meltdown and a different thing entirely to discuss it in front of a crowd.

  • Isn’t sensitivity a defining mark of a comedian – being able to notice things that civilians would leave untouched etc? And Jon Glaser is an amazing writer and performer. He just doesn’t have what it takes to be an e-trade baby.

  • That was a great great show. I loved Jon Glaser turning into a bitter tool bag. Hard to imagine a comedian would be so damn sensitive to a comment. Go back to your horrible show and let the funny people be funny.

  • I totally understand where both comedians were coming from in that exchange. Pete was looking for a common link with Glaser to talk about and his mouth moves faster than his brain (like many comics) and he didn’t realize it could come off sounding pretty terrible in the context. I’m sure it was a sore spot for Glaser since although he is doing well now, he probably wasn’t doing as well back when that job was up to the two of them and the wound still exists.

    Anyway, this is the reason this isn’t just another comedy podcast and why I will keep tuning in. Pete you make an awesome show and I hope you are able to repair any bridges that accidentally catch on fire.

  • God, I have mixed feelings about this episode. Of course, most people who are listening to this podcast are obviously biased to give Pete the benefit of the doubt. I am one of those people.

    That being said, I only partially agree with how Jon handled it. I definitely agree that he shouldn’t have just let it slide. If he knows Pete at all, he should know that that bit of unprofessionalism was clearly not intentional and I feel he could have handled it better. The correct response would have been to tell Pete that he sincerely doesn’t appreciate that he brought it up and keep it there. He acted kinda like a scorned lover and mentioned “boatload of free cash” and “not sure why I told my agent yes to this podcast”….both unnecessary.

    I second all the other people giving props to Eric and Jackie for trying their best to keep it light…well deserved.

  • I love Eric Andre. I’m going to be trying to shoehorn a rock steady joke in my brain for the next few days. And Jackie might be my new favorite person, holy shit. That was amazing.

    RE: Comics- the 90’s cartoon made me love Superman, but Super Dickery is a thing ( http://dft.ba/-1qBz )

    My blood pressure went up. I’m glad it ended in hugs.

  • The “Only the Lonely” Jackie is referring to is the Motels’ hit from about 1983, wherein the lyric runs “It’s like I told you/Only the lonely can play…” rather than get laid…but, then again, the Duran Duran lyric initially sounded like “Girls on pills/Girls on pills…” to me…which seemed perfectly in keeping with the social scene I imagined that band to wander through, as much as I cared.

  • Jon Glaser is fantastic. Pete wants real responses and brought up some real uncomfortable shit, and that’s how it feels. I also love how Jon addressed it at the end, and explained it.

    That is the premise of the show, but it’s also the risk of really weird stuff “hey, so I’m fucking your girlfriend now. How does that feel?” versus “thoughts on God?”