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The Indoor Kids #91: Bioshock and Babies with Blair Herter and Jessica Chobot

Today The Indoor Kids welcome back their favorite couple, Blair Herter and Jessica Chobot! We haven’t seen them since they had a baby a few weeks ago, so there’s lots of discussion about that, which the squeamish might want to skip. Plus they talk about Bioshock: Infinite for a long time. No spoilers, but the basics of the world and the main characters are discussed. Then they talk XBox AlwaysOngate and play a Twitter game!

GAMES:
Legend of Zelda, Skyrim, BioShock Infinite, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Daylight, Mass Effect, Injustice

TV SHOWS:
The Staircase, Burning Love

MOVIES:
Zeitgeist, Cropsey, Step Up 3D

BOOKS:
Devil in the White City

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37 comments

  • Rab Florence had good take on the “it’s too violent” reaction to Bioshock Infinite:

    http://effingarcade.tumblr.com/post/47224149008/the-gaming-cringe

    He basically puts it down to an inferiority complex some gamers have. They want so desperately to be able to prove that games are a mature, respectable medium, but cringe back at violence for being too gamey.

    “Could The Godfather have been That Film, had it not featured characters being cut to ribbons by machine gun fire and bullets through eye sockets? Could Reservoir Dogs have been That Film had it not shown an ear being cut off? Could Preacher have been That Comic had it not been, y’know, gruesomely violent all the fucking time?”

  • So I did a little bit of checking up on the reaction to Bioshock Infinite after listening to the podcast. Apparently it pissed off people on the extreme right, AND people on the far left, AND the deeply religious. Wow. I can only say that if so many disparate factions are pissed off by a single piece of art, if it can bypass the painstakingly crafted logical defense systems they’ve put in place to defend their unusual ideologies and hit them in an emotional soft spot, then as art it must be doing something right.

    While most games contain a story, many times clumsily told, it’s good to see that video games are beginning to broach subjects and introduce ideas that have a real affect on the realities of the present day, such as racism, war, and oppression. It’s also nice to see the subjects introduced and stories told with a steadier hand and a clearer point of view. Hopefully these games will become progressively greater thought-provokers and help us to usher in a time when the racists are the ones afraid to walk out their front doors and the homophobes are the ones who have to remain closeted for fear of people finding out who they really are.

  • I’m actually relieved to hear that I wasn’t the only person that felt Bioshock Infinite was possibly too violent. It’s not a complaint or a judgement, it’s just something I personally felt while trying to finish it with a few friends in a span of the past weekend. It got too violent for me, personally. I might not feel the same if we had taken more time to play it, but I did end up needing to take more and more “breaks” from the game as we went on.

  • The part right at the end of the raffle (trying to be vague here) towards the beginning of the game, was SUPER gruesome and surprising, but I fucking loved it.

  • I loved how if you do your special neck snap melee kill, Elizabeth will audibly say “oh god…” in a disturbed grossed out voice. Like all of the other violence she is ok with but the neck snap kill just gives her the willies.

    It was a very cool game.

  • First off, love the show and thanks for the work! Kumail (guessing Emily is a no) have you ever played Dark Souls? An AMAZING but HARD action RPG. Veyr well put together and even though you will die hundreds of times, they leveling system is second to none, and never have to go to far to get to where you died. Graphics are supurb and the action feels very natural. Only $20 and i think it could really last a life time. Interested to hear anyone else on this boards thoughts on the game. Also, any thoughts on Ni No Kuni?

  • I really enjoyed the critique of your exploration into Bioshock on this episode. The perspectives surrounding parents who are gamers was pretty fun too. However, I was compelled to give a bit of a warning about the movie that was mentioned, “The Zeitgeist.” I discovered it years ago when the first version came out and was intrigued immediately. While I agree that it is fun and interesting, I have found that it is riddled with historical and scientific inaccuracies. This includes the “Zeitgeist Addendum” and “Zeitgeist Revisited.” I would really put these movies somewhere in between the categories of being pseudo-history and pseudoscience. It is fun in a conspiratorial movie way and there’s nothing scary about it. People buying into it without any amount skepticism is far more frightening. I love your show! Who’s going to mess with a bullet with a shark face??

  • “Who’s going to mess with a bullet with a shark face??”
    Mario!
    Ya damn right.

    Who is the plumber who would risk his neck for a brother plumber?
    Mario!
    Can ya dig it?

    They say this cat Mario is a bad mother-
    Shut yo mouth.
    But I’m talkin about Mario!

  • Great show guys! Very edutaining. But I have to correct Blair on Custer’s Revenge. It was made by a company called Mystique and was available only on the Atari 2600. And Bobby Kotick had nothing to do with Activision in the 1980s.

  • Another terrific episode. Thanks so much for doing these consistently each week, I always look forward to them.

    Just had to say it was hilarious hearing Kumail’s hesitation with the effort involved in raising a baby. Kids are wonderful, but the first thing you’ll lose is sleep, then privacy and then entertainment (games, books, movies). I stopped playing games for almost 3 years while my kids were in diapers.

    On the plus side, that meant I got to come back to great games like Skyrim, Arkham Asylum and Mass Effect, and they were all super cheap!

  • As a father of twins, when I hear people talk about how difficult their kid is I can’t help but think “Oh, you have one baby. Explain to me again how hard your life has become”… (it’s a joke, relax)

    About the violence in Bioshock Infinite. It’s not that the game is “too violent”, though I have to agree with Penny Arcade on the matter that it is weird to be blasting people’s heads off while seeing a Disney princess run around. The problem is that the fighting is just not that good. I can only compare it to a bot-fight in the original Unreal Tournament. Having said that, the game is really good and I don’t know anybody who played the game say the game isn’t really good. It’s just that those fight scenes get in the way of the game. I would have loved to see the game have more of a stealth / puzzle approach to the gameplay.

    About the xbox dude reacting all douchy to the always online rumor. I don’t think Microsoft made him a “sacrificial lamb” like you guys mentioned. It did no good for Microsoft since everybody now thinks this means it’s somewhat official (which it is not). I’m getting kind of sick of all these rumors. Right now, we’re at the level where there are rumors that the date microsoft wants to show the new console (which is also a rumor) was changed from one rumored date to another rumored date because of the “always on” rumor (which itself takes on several forms from the rumor that it has to be always on all the way to the rumor that it only has be on for a few minutes in the beginning). Xzibit would be proud. Could we just ignore all these rumors until microsoft actually shows us something, please?

  • @Brad O Dark Souls is such an epic win in terms of being just as great as demon souls! The lore, character building and combat was very very fresh for me and kept me engaged! kumail and Em should definitely play it!

    Have to say Jessica and Blair are such fun personalities! Their on screen stuff doesn’t really let them get to open up like on this show…it was kind of a beautiful thing to listen to :) please invite them back on when you have the chance, as I love hearing their gaming and miscellaneous activities on shows like these :D

  • As a father of three children, the oldest is 12 and the youngest 6, I loved every minute of this podcast! LOL, my wife just rolled her eyes and walked out of the room as I tried to recount one of the stories… just remember these words, lol: potty training.

  • hmmmm, luv ya guys.
    but i dunno. the episode was too reality for me and not enough geek shit.
    real talk, i work 5-9 and go home to the family.

    just not interested in listening to it either…

  • This is a really great podcast again

    Just want to point out only .0045% of dudes in America are named Blair. I had to look it up because I thought it was pretty strange