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The Indoor Kids #122: Inside a Cat’s Mouth with Kevin Pereira, Brea Grant, and Sandeep Parikh

This week, Kumail and Emily welcome their pals Kevin, Brea, and Sandeep to talk about Oculus Rift, “girlfriend mode” in gaming, horror movies, GTA 5, and all kinds of other disgusting stuff. Plus we talk about their new Nerdist video, Real Housewives of Horror, and working with someone you love!

GAMES:
GTA V, Puppeteer, The Walking Dead, Oculus Rift, Skyrim

MOVIES:
Jug Face, Grand Piano, Cheap Thrills, The Brood, Suspiria, The Fifth Element, Goblin, Creep Show, Gremlins, Ghostbusters, Ender’s Game, After Earth, The Book of Eli, Inglorious Bastards, The Hangover, The Goonies, Teeth, Deadgirl, The Woman, The Conjuring, Return to Oz, Tremors

TV SHOWS:
Heroes, Dexter, Picket Fences, Project Runway

WEB SERIES:
Game Shop, Save the Supers, Real Housewives of Horror

BOOKS:
The Ender’s Game/Ender’s Shadow series, Ready Player One

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12 comments

  • Someone needs to tell Kumail that you don’t get Gold on the torture scene by not electrocuting the guy. You have to do all of them. You just need to do it without stopping the guys heart.

  • Hi Kumail,

    I’d like to start by saying that I’m sorry if you took my question as meant to give you guys “shit”. I didn’t intend it that way. It is honestly a question that I had in regards to your conversation because I didn’t hear anyone bring it up and, iirc, it did seem that a part of the reason for the decision not to see the film, for some of the people on this episode, stemmed from Orson Scott Card’s rather vocal homophobia.

    This may not have been your and Emily’s take on it but it did seem to be Kevin and Brea’s, hence why I directed my question to everyone on this podcast. Since it only seemed to have come out recently that Orson Scott Card was not making any money, from the film’s box office grosses, I was simply curious that if, assuming the knowledge was new to anyone, would the decision to see the movie be changed?

    The rest of my post was an attempt to briefly present my take on the situation and in my haste I can see that it could be taken negatively. That was not my intention and I apologize if you took it that way. Tone is almost impossible to distinguish online and I understand how one can take offense to a post even if that wasn’t the intent.

    I do feel I need to address one point you brought up, book sales. That was not a part of my initial question and is tangential to the question. While the release of the film has been timed with the increase in book sales, thus indicating a connection between the two, they are still 2 distinct mediums. Going to see the movie does not equate to supporting the books. You have to make a conscious decision to purchase a movie ticket AND a separate decision to buy the book. There is a connection between the two but you can see the movie without purchasing the book.

    Sorry if you took my initial comment to be giving you shit for not seeing the film. Other than Sandeep, the only talk about seeing the film seemed to stem from not supporting Orson Scott Card and not from a simple disinterest in the film. If you have no interest in a film then you would, of course, not see it. If someone were to judge you based upon that, well, fuck them. Personally, I wouldn’t recommend seeing the film. It was decent but felt rushed, to me.

  • Hey, I thought that was some pretty constructive sarcastic criticism, but at least I was right about getting off on the wrong foot. I will be happy to cut you some slack both in regards to your fine podcast or the next time we go sailing.

    Re Ender’s Game – I would never argue with someone regarding personal tastes – I am not looking for Nerd Consensus – and if someone told me they weren’t going to watch Ender’s Game because they don’t like sci-fi, I’d have nothing to say. However, if someone says they aren’t seeing it because of one involved person’s political views, I think that is worthy of discussion. And you kinda twisted both my and Scott B.’s argument to sound ridiculous – of course you don’t have to see everything because people worked on it. But to specifically say, “I am not going to see this to punish one person whose ideas I don’t like” is unfairly punishing the many other people involved (in my opinion). Imagine if I refused to watch Beta Male (which was fantastic) because I thought the President of Comedy Central was a dick (I don’t) – would you think that was fair to you? But yeah, at the end of the day, I don’t REALLY care what you guys see/don’t see or like/don’t like, but do you want us discussing the content of your show here or what?

  • Thanks for listening gang. Honestly I’m surprised at these guys giving us shit for not watching Ender’s Game. 2 things: the release of the movie absolutely helps Card. The book is back in the best seller list. Is that just the craziest coincidence of all time? 2. We never condemned the film. We never called for a boycott. We just said weren’t gonna see it. It’s our choice. Do we have to go see everything? People work on everything. Should we go see Madea Christmas because people worked on it? That’s a ridiculous argument and statement. Go see the movie if you want to. We won’t see it because we don’t want to.

    Also new guy, sarcasm is a great way to get your point across. It’s very constructive. We had more people on the show than we’ve ever had on. Cut us some slack.

    Kumail

  • Oh my goodness I laughed so hard on this episode. Thank you so much.

    It is a tricky business judging the art from the artist. Most artists would fail the patented “decent human being test”… we would lose huge swaths of great art that way. Yet there are some types of behavior someone cannot get over.

    Thanks again, Indoor Kids.

  • I’m a relatively new fan of the show – in the past month I’ve gone back and listened to nearly all of the old episodes – and I think it’s great. Love the chemistry between Kumail and Emily (you two should really hook up) and the energy you bring to every show has made me as excited about video games as I was when I used to drool over Nintendo Power magazines in the 80s.

    And now to get off on the wrong foot with some criticism thinly veiled by sarcasm. One of the things I hate about some podcasts is how like, everyone kind of waits and listens to what other people are saying before they start talking – I don’t have time for that! It’s way better when everyone in the room just talks and you can take it all in at once. Sure, maybe you don’t really know what the hell anyone is talking about and your anxiety almost reaches panic attack levels, but you get to hear five different voices AT ONCE which is so much more efficient.

    Anyway, I seriously love the show, I just prefer the ones that don’t give me heart palpitations!

    P.S. Really disappointed to hear you condemn a film which HUNDREDS of people worked on based on the opinion of the asshole author of the original novel it’s based on. The movie deserves to be judged on its own merits – from what I hear it’s not great – that’s a reason not to see it – some guy’s stupid, backwards opinion that is thankfully losing more and more traction with every passing day is not.

  • I’m curious, does the knowledge that Orson Scott Card’s movie rights deal for “Ender’s Game” not including anything on the back end change anyone’s mind about seeing the film? Since he isn’t going to be making any more money off of the film, it would essentially be supporting him even more by only reading the novels.

    Using his point of view on a subject as a reason to not see something he is no longer benefiting from doesn’t help support the opposite point of view. It only serves to harm a story that most people agree they enjoyed and to disenfranchise everyone who worked hard on the film.

  • I don’t know if there is some weird caching issue or what, but when I click on the IK from nerdist, the highest episode listed is 121. I found this page via an IK twitter link.

    Anyway, keep rockin the casbah